Author Topic: List your pet peeves in semantics and language that downplays the gravity of the covid situation in news & public media (Read 4074 times)

Data Report · « **Reply #15 on:** January 11, 2025, 01:08:27 am »

Yeah, I do not like when the media blames a virus death on underlying conditions. Why should anyone have to die at all? In the early days of the pandemic, the 1 big thing we did was try to protect those who are most at risk. Now not only do we not do that, but many who are high at risk are uninformed how bad these viruses can be and that Covid can still be bad. Then there is the fact Covid can weaken the immune system.

Masked Man · « **Reply #16 on:** January 11, 2025, 01:15:57 am »

yeah,
Also I don't like how the media has implied or said that only people who ore older or "at risk' need to take more precautions such as masking. Common sense dictates if something is bad for old people it is bad for all people.

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Data Report · « **Reply #17 on:** January 11, 2025, 01:17:14 am »

Quote from: Masked Man on January 11, 2025, 01:15:57 am

I don't like how the media has implied or said that only people who ore older or "at risk' need to take more precautions such as masking. Common sense dictates if something is bad for old people it is bad for all people.

Point and case several states have reported the viruses this winter had hit ages 0-4 years old very hard.

Steve · « **Reply #18 on:** January 30, 2025, 03:27:25 pm »

First, I want to start by expressing my deepest sympathies for all of those who lost family and/or friends in the aircraft collision on January 29, 2025, in the Washington DC area. For those who do not know, a small airliner and a military helicopter collided, killing all involved. My understanding of the death toll is 67 but I can't guarantee that the number mentioned is accurate.

However, my grievance is that these deaths seem to weigh more in the mass media than Covid-19 deaths.

A brief check of Florida's Covid-19 site currently lists 145 people who have died this year (and it is only January) of Covid-19. That's over twice the number of people than this aircraft collision and we are in year 5 of this pandemic. And that is just one state out of 50 in this country and we are just one country out of over 200 in the world.

I understand a lot of the counter-points: That people are experiencing Covid-19 burnout, that people have "normalized" Covid-19 deaths, that any airplane crash is tragic and is newsworthy... I understand all of those.

Yet we are in year 5 of a pandemic that has not gone away, largely due to the actions (or 'inactions' if you want to describe them) of our elected leadership and a majority of the public who has placed them in their leadership roles. We could be on the verge of a new pandemic (HPAI). Certainly, HPAI has already been a pandemic for birds and non-human mammals and if you don't believe me, go check out the prices for a carton of eggs.

It would be comforting if the same media that has wall-to-wall coverage of a plane crash that kills 67 people might lend that same amount of attention to a virus that is in its fifth year of killing us and to another virus that is causing mass casualties amongst our dairy cattle and chickens. Is that too much to ask?

Masked Man · « **Reply #19 on:** January 30, 2025, 05:21:00 pm »

Quote from: Steve on January 30, 2025, 03:27:25 pm

First, I want to start by expressing my deepest sympathies for all of those who lost family and/or friends in the aircraft collision on January 29, 2025, in the Washington DC area. For those who do not know, a small airliner and a military helicopter collided, killing all involved. My understanding of the death toll is 67 but I can't guarantee that the number mentioned is accurate.

However, my grievance is that these deaths seem to weigh more in the mass media than Covid-19 deaths.

A brief check of Florida's Covid-19 site currently lists 145 people who have died this year (and it is only January) of Covid-19. That's over twice the number of people than this aircraft collision and we are in year 5 of this pandemic. And that is just one state out of 50 in this country and we are just one country out of over 200 in the world.

I understand a lot of the counter-points: That people are experiencing Covid-19 burnout, that people have "normalized" Covid-19 deaths, that any airplane crash is tragic and is newsworthy... I understand all of those.

Yet we are in year 5 of a pandemic that has not gone away, largely due to the actions (or 'inactions' if you want to describe them) of our elected leadership and a majority of the public who has placed them in their leadership roles. We could be on the verge of a new pandemic (HPAI). Certainly, HPAI has already been a pandemic for birds and non-human mammals and if you don't believe me, go check out the prices for a carton of eggs.

It would be comforting if the same media that has wall-to-wall coverage of a plane crash that kills 67 people might lend that same amount of attention to a virus that is in its fifth year of killing us and to another virus that is causing mass casualties amongst our dairy cattle and chickens. Is that too much to ask?

I totally agree that there is a huge insensitivity to airborne diseases and the toll it is taking, and its continuing to take on its victims with major long term repercussions. The sheer magnitude and numbers of people these airborne diseases are hurting including our animal and food sources is astronomical and people act like its not happening. I think the masses are in complete denial... like hear no evil see no evil... I think a lot of people just want things the way they used to be and quite frankly are pretending things will be okay when they are NOT okay! There weren't these diseases in my school when I was a kid.. there was no covid ..whooping cough was something my grandmother had as a child and was non existent in my school years.. there were definitely no bird flu or millions of chickens being culled every day in a new place.. monkey pox!, TB and influenza hotspots.. we got almost half dozen airborne diseases hitting all seasons of the year circulating..how are hospitals going to keep up!? impossible ..this is truly crazy situation but what is crazier are the people in denial this stuff is happening. We at Data Report info aren't in denial ..we see the data, the reports and the reputable studies every single day!

I have the same beef so to speak even with hurricane relief in my area I can't help but think of the covid numbers and how they continue to grow yet I don't hear about people in the entertainment business or any other parties or factions or good will-like charity organizations raising money for covid related assistance.

In particular I would like to see more education and precautions such as masks of course being pushed to prevent more covid and airborne diseases such as bird flu so we don't get hospital overload. Once hospitals are overwhelmed then hospital care gets reduced like it was dark ages again.

When people in the public eye like superstars such as musicians and sports players get sick they have and opportunity to share in their recovery yet currantly they make no efforts to even disclose the particulars of their illness.. this morally reprehensible me. These people in the public eye miss the opportunity to grow from these events and teach others.

I'd like to seek healthcare and dentistry without fearing maskless people giving me a disease and I'd like to see more masked people in general so I feel more comfortable in going out in public to attend to business and to simply feel like I am part of a society that cares for itself and the challenges it currently faces insofar as illness goes. With some money wisely sunk into education and airborne disease awareness into the public I might actually feel more comfortable going out more as a Masked citizen.

Benjamin Franklin famously advised fire-threatened Philadelphians in 1736 that 'An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure,

The Masked Man

Masked Man · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2025, 05:59:49 pm »

I gotta a Peeve about insensitivity to number of death of animals to bird flu

… a health department or news channel can’t convince me that it’s not of public concern or the public is not endangered when a flock or herd of say 50- 20,000 creatures either die or are culled (killed) on a regular basis because of bird flu every couple days at any given place for quite some time now.

While these creatures aren’t human one might still say these are living beings there but for the grace of what go we? A creature is a living form and bird flu is proving itself successful so to speak with each being it enters gaining the edge with each infection making way for more likelihood of mutation not in human species favor

Replace the word culled “birds” with killed “life forms” and yeah we should be empathetic to say the very least we should be concerned after al we are “living forms” as well.

… the virus is exponentially thriving making it more powerful as a virus. ..
…so once again bird flu is of great public concern already doing a number on all of us intertwined with us being equally part animal…

We should be uncomfortable with the death of so many creatures … there should be signs of discomfort coming from a rational persons perspective of the matter…

when I rode my bike in my safety mask briefly racing through a grocery store parking lot I didn’t notice a look of discomfort at all on the general public’s maskless faces even with their herd-like behavior …tsk tsk tsk the people flock together in the same animalistic behavior as the birds and cattle all standing in line in huddle… no different than most herdlike flock like animals we see. The same bathrooms the same drinking fountain standing in the same lines all standing in the footprints of one another like cattle..these are but creatures of habit definitely not concerned about bird flu or the flu for that matter in the local store.

My personal strategy and thought are as thus: I say Study the animals … observe them. see how they thrive or fall and you might stand a chance in this giant terrarium we call the environment .. don’t do what the animals do that die… be they they a lesson on to us who want to survive this bird flu should it escalate or continue to escalate at its current rate .. this is a flu that is a herd disease or a flock disease where animals crowd together their membranes soaking it all in… wanna live don’t act like cattle do the opposite of the animals .. don’t shed together. Wanna be different than a susceptible animal then filter the air with a mask unless you want to breathe in the air of the gathering that is in the local store.. wear a mask unless you want to be as free as a bird with bird flu. Wear a mask to truly separate yourself from the flock and their feather dander. You are the only animal that can choose to not breathe in what they are breathing by wearing a mask

Bird flu is in our wildlife, in our zoos, right outside our window, and in our greatest food sources dairy and egg livestock… bird flu is of public concern now obviously.

True precautions and true preventative measures mean just that… ‘pre’ means before and to be truly safe one must be well rehearsed and already in the habit of taking actions before it is actually deemed necessary for it to serve as a true ‘pre’ventative.

If one wears a mask as a precautionary measure then that means one wears a mask before people are actually infected.

It’s also pretty weird they kill a gigantic herd or flock instead of just letting whichever creatures survive the bird flu … I’m not arguing for or against it but what f the ones that were meant to survive the flu have a special ability or something to survive bird flu and are supposed to live? In other words if they didn’t kill all the livestock or poultry and let some of them that survived would those survivors have given birth to offspring that also had the genes or ability to survive bird flu as well? Don’t get me wrong I’m all about eradicating bird flu but these are questions worth thinking about when killing off entire herd of birds including some that may have what it takes to have survived the disease. While I’m not suggesting that we endanger people by letting an infested flock run free to infect everybody I am suggesting saving those specimens that recover from bird flu because this may lead to the understanding or the key to eradicating bird flu… we study what is special about the birds that survive bird flu and we see if their young have the propensity to also survive bird flu under some controlled environment… we quarantine some of the sick birds and let those live that do live of those quarantined sick birds. That’s what I propose rather than just killing all the sick birds because the sick birds that survive might be the birds that are supposed to live in order for us to study and find the cure.

This is just something to think about: If but a fraction of sick birds for example were quarintined (and safe from human species that would wear pep when handling them), would not 5 to 10 percent of this fraction of infected birds survive to give birth to other birds that might be survivors and might help shed light on the bird flu itself?

Meanwhile a lot of people aren’t scared enough to wear masks yet they have no problem culling the whole herd or flock .. just something to think about. Why not live and let live at least a small fraction that would have lived? We breed animals for all sorts of reasons why not breed some survivors from the fraction of a sick ones in a safe quarantined controlled area?

Steve · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2025, 09:04:38 am »

"The risk for human infection is low."

If I had a nickel for every time a news broadcast or an online article mentioned some variant of that phrase for HPAI (or for whatever new variant of Covid emerges), I may not become a millionaire but I'd need to rent some storage space in order to keep all of the nickels that I had collected.

If the risk is low, why not make it even lower? Why not try to realistically eliminate the risk at all? Why wait until the risk is high in order to enact additional protective measures?

The whole idea of locking the doors to your house at night is to lower the already low risk of a burglary. Every day, we take additional protective measures that lowers our risk for calamities that already low in nature. We wash our clothes, we vacuum, we dust... we perform outdoor chores even though the risk of consequence is low if we don't perform these activities.

So why not just lower the risk still while it is already low?

Masked Man · « **Reply #22 on:** January 30, 2026, 06:48:13 pm »

The latest latest pet peeve of mine is when during a public health emergency a public health organization or health official says "no need for Panic" or "Don't Panic!"

Here's some key points I blatantly stole off the internet because they are so well said:

"Research suggests that simply telling people to "calm down" or "not to panic" can backfire by minimizing their fears without giving them tools to manage the situation, which can be seen as unprofessional or dismissive

Undermines Trust: If the public feels the message is masking a worse reality, it leads to mistrust of health authorities.

Ignores Valid Fear: If there is a real threat, telling people not to panic can seem callous or irresponsible, especially if it is used to avoid answering tough questions, as argued in some crisis scenarios.

Creates Confusion: If a "no panic" message contradicts the actual, visible severity of a situation, it can lead to a chaotic,, and uncooperative public

Best Practices for Health Ministers
Experts suggest that instead of telling people how to feel ("don't panic"), effective communication should:

Acknowledge Fear: Validate that the situation is serious, which builds empathy.
Provide Transparency: Be honest about what is known and unknown to avoid accusations of hiding the truth.
Offer Actionable Steps: Give the public clear instructions on what to do to protect themselves.
Show Competence: Focus on the steps being taken to manage the crisis, rather than just the emotional state of the public.

In essence, telling the public "not to panic" is generally considered poor communication if it is used to avoid accountability or to downplay a severe situation, but it can be part of a calming strategy if paired with concrete information and guidance".

...now when I hear some health minister or newscaster say "don't panic" I interpret that as meaning "don't do anything at all, Don't think about it ,Don't worry about others, Don't prepare or take heed of anything Don't bother to protect yourself, Don't respond, and just take whatever throws a punch at you right in the face and don't complain if you get hurt or die... just don't panic or respond or show natural inborn fight or flight behavior. basically they just want us to be stupid and dumb to all care and concern... totally meek and to be good subjects and patrons. Don't read anything, don't question anything, and basically just be complacent, Don't rock the boat, Don't move, wiggle too much, you are under no obligations, and just be a good sitting duck.

...That's actually a tall order and much more work than just acting like responsible caring citizen if you ask me.. Ha! I couldn't possibly do all that aforementioned stuff without my mask on!
It's a lot easier to just live with "the panic" and just wear a mask and take precautions and survive,

The Masked Man

P.S. in reality all the pet peeves mentioned in this thread are actually justifiable complaints.. we have the right to make these complaints and they are harmful things that irk us for a reason. I should retitle this thread: "They Aren't Just Pet Peeves".

Masked Man · « **Reply #23 on:** February 19, 2026, 07:59:37 pm »

Again come across something that peeves me: downplaying germs and concerns about germs.

I take my loved one in for a pre surgery appointment. I discuss my genuine concern for my loved one catching an airborne illness or disease during her stay at hospital briefly after her Gall Bladder surgery.My loved one's cousin died from covid he got from a hospital stay and my loved one caught hepatitis A along with 32 other patients that took years to get over from a dentist.

The doctor just downplays it. Says American kids are always washing their hands all the time and are more sick than African kids have stronger immunity systems because they never wash their hands and play in the mud all the time in third world countries.

I don't believe that. Gazza is pretty muddy and there's a lot of illness going on.. there's a lot of disease in third world countries posted right here in Data Report Info.. There's malaria and dengue and all sorts of crap going down..."African kids healthier than American kids who are always washing their hands!?.. that can't be true.. WTF!? Evidently people who take gall bladders out know nothing about covid or airborne illnesses and airborne diseases or even zoonotic diseases.

Why Can't the doctors just can't say "We will make sure no nurses or staff from the hospital enter her room without masks on" ?.. Why can't they just reassure me of that?

Also exploring wether the hospital treated at risk elderly people differently than regular patients,
I also told the doctor that simply operating on a person puts them in a temporary state of Immunocompromisation and the doctor said he hadn't read any studies on that.

They just tell me "its unlikely" she'll get an illness.

Sorry but it just seems like the doctors I meet often don't want me to worry or ask good questions .. like don't rock the boat!

I'm skeptical.. I don't think doctors and nurses are going to admit people get sick under their care at places where sick people gather seeking treatment.

I mean They are going to go to all this trouble with providing a sterile place for the surgery and they can't assure me staff or nurses from a busy hospital won't give her the flu or something. It's just wrong to not take pride in your work. If your going to take the gall bladder out of somebody at least have the gall to be the boss and assure the caretaker and loved one she won't get sick from covid or influenza B.. Its horrible but they don't assure me of that.

How can I trust them with my loved one's life if they can't even give me their word no maskless nurses or staff are going to handle her!?

The doctor was pretty much like those are just the chances you take.

She's 77 and I love her. I feel so small that I can't protect her. The hospital and the nurses and the doctors all put on masks for me when I request them to but on the day of surgery they are taking her away and I can't be there to babysit the doctors and nurses and staff and makes sure they wear masks after they have exposed themselves to sickness. We haven't been sick in six years. We mask. I protected me and her successfully from covid and all airborne illnesses for six years straight. I can't even tell you how I feel about a maskless healthcare system.I'm in tears and rage.

Sure would be smart to use video surveillance of their work behind these closed doors.. I don't understand this. I can make them mask in front of me but they are going to take her away and I won't be able to protect her
Video LINK:

WhyCantTheAssureMeSheWontBeExposedToMasklessPeopleAtHospital.mov

Google Docs · drive.google.com

P.S.Its what Steve mentioned ..that's what the doctors told me today they say "The risk for human infection is low." That's exactly what the doctor said when I showed concern for her getting an illness during surgery from the maskless staff in the hospital. They couldn't give me a straight answer. I'm like don't risk anything and make sure everyone masks for me doc! Here's the weird part I can get doctors and nurses to mask for us when they are in my presence but I can't get the doctors and nurses to make people in the hospital mask or at least I can't get them to assure me of it.

I'm gonna wear a mask for a couple weeks around her while I take care of her in my own home after I bring her home from surgery. One of us has to take absolutely no risk from getting sick. How do I care for her if I get sick? I'm sorry but a lot of these doctor's are sh*t.. I apologize but if they can't give me their word that people can remain masked around a 77 year old woman in surgery then that's what they are to me. They can cut a woman open and remove her gall bladder but they can't tell their colleagues and staff to remain masked around my loved one. They say the "The risk for human infection is low." but think how much lower it could be! I'm staying strong. I'm going to wear a mask when I take care of her just incase the dice that rolled isn't in my favor. I think its wrong..I'm rightfully angry. No matter what I am not going to risk getting sick. I have to be strong and stay strong for her. I guess I just have higher standards than most.

Wear a Mask,
The Masked Man

P.S. I know there are good and bad doctors and in-between ones. I gotta blow off some more steam.. some doctors(not all)are totally insensitive to covid! I mean it! Unless I got covid in 2019 and didn't know it, I don't think I got covid and it is terrifying even not having gotten it! .. covid is dead serious! To say covid is over is such an an injustice. Some doctors are saying and doing that pretending something is over when scientifically it is not over. Covid and its mutations still exists and could even rebound worse and not only that to me its all about long covid and what covid does to people 5-10 years after they caught it. Some of these doctors are so presumptuous. It ain't over til its over man!

I post questions on the doctor's you Tube and they never reply or write anything its like when they get out of school they don't use their brains anymore they can't discuss or share or answer meaningful questions with out a lawyer or something Some of these doctors just use You Tube as an advertisement and not a teaching tool..their YouTube is definitely not educational Its like an infomercial or worse bragging about stuff that is not medical.. its like they are running for politics..I'm serious like I ask serious medical questions and the Youtube is all about how they like football and how the community loves them.. it's just not educational:
PUBLIC STUDY Whether Dr. Edmisten and Hospital Staff will MASK or not & Treat Immunocompromised Patients Differently LINK:
https://www.datareport.info/miscellaneous-discussions/public-study-whether-dr-edmisten-and-hospital-staff-treat-immunocompromised-pati/

All I know is I mask and I always have to prompt doctors and nurses to mask and that me and my loved one have been masking for 6 years and haven't had any airborne illnesses or airborne diseases in 6 years straight.

I can't help but wonder how many lives have been lost and how many could be saved simply with stricter masking mandates in healthcare. It just seems there's somebody in every family that has a horror story about getting sick in a hospital or while visiting a doctor. Ive been hearing such things all my life about people losing loved ones and loved ones getting sick at hospitals and in healthcare even the workers.

Yet another point in case why don't the surgeons tell me to make sure to mask for the sake of the patient? I am caregiver and I will be waiting placed directly with strangers in the waiting room some of who are likely to be sick. That's why people go to hospitals.. so why aren't the surgeons safeguarding the patient by allowing me to sit with sick people. I'll be wearing a mask of course but it is fair question to ask why we aren't told to mask prior, during, and post surgery to ensure the greatest success for patient.

Its like a mental block a lot of health officials have about masking. The mask is not a chemical internal medicine thing yet it circumvents the disease via a filter..it totally prevents the illness and diseases often completely successful. Its physics and based on science. I use the mask because it works. It's almost as if a lot of people who disregard or shun the mask usage are worried more about hysteria than the actual diseases at hand. A true scientist would commend and use what works and never wanes and that would be the mask that protects against numerous illnesses and diseases at once. I'm into what actually works and so far I'm living proof....

... I can only suppose their is almost an envy that overcomes the maskless when they must acknowledge the mask was used scientifically with success on my part and that because of my mask I have not had a single airborne illness or or airborne disease in 6 years. The envious would no doubt want to attribute the mask wearing to some form of neurosis but how can it be neurotic? What's neurotic about not catching an airborne illness or and airborne disease by choosing to wear a mask rather than any of other chemical or invasive internal medicine they suggest? I'm not knocking their treatments but they certainly aren't showing much interest in my preventions and my mask or the mask's ability to prevent illness...

...They just don't have the mind that asks questions. Its hard to trust a mind that doesn't inquire into matter and question things. Its hard to trust a mind that thanks it already knows everything and has all the answers. Its important to always ask a lit of questions of oneself and others... that kind of curiosity and drive to think is super healthy and shows great intelligence and creativity.

Masked Man · « **Reply #24 on:** March 25, 2026, 03:07:50 am »

It just drives me nuts.. It just peeves me!! GGGrrrrrr!.. photo attached is a girl just not wearing a good fitting n95 mask.. it just irks me people doing the least they can do.. C'mon get a better mask on!

Then I just can't help but get furious as I see a nurse giving a shot with bare hands and no mask!? I don't care if the nurse is vaccinated already or not it just doesn't seem right and it's not right to breathe on somebody you are a giving a shot to! The nurse is breathing on the shot and her own hands as she prepares the shot.. we know that much and so Cover your face doctors and nurses! Its just not professional to take chances. Hey doc, You want a sterilized environment and a sterilized needle or are ya gonna breathe on everything!? At least show people and airborne illnesses and airborne diseases you respect them by masking. It's just so rude to get into somebody's face to administer injections into people without a mask on!

How many people in a row does this nurse handle and administer injections to maskless? It just doesn't seem safe to me. It seems an unnecessary risk for both healthcare worker and patient and the other patients.. it just serves as a bad example as well.. This is the time and place for everybody to mask ... you want to mask as a nurse and doctor and as role models as well... you want to model the behavior and get everybody to mask even if you think you are invincible. This might be why healthcare workers get sick a lot according to some research and surveys. It just looks stupid when the patients mask and the doctors and nurses don't.. it totally looks bad like super low IQ ...very unintelligent .

It's just creepy ..Doctors and nurses telling all these kids to mask for one another and not to 'vape' (not to share electronic cigarettes together) and then the doctor or nurse don't wear no mask or rubber gloves and they get in the kid's face and give an injection after injection...its like WTF!? Doesn't this apply to all those in that room!? Why would the doctors and nurses be exempt from masking.. are they super human or something at their age and impervious to their own advice? Its's not okay to touch on one specimen after anther maskless and gloveless and its not okay to expose oneself to possible Meningitis B that just broke out so rapidly.. it's too soon to say that a maskless nurse is completely safe. Practice what you preach doctors and nurses! To me this looks humiliating. It looks like the nurse thinks she's better than everybody else or something... it just looks so hipocritical to be a maskless nurse like that..I don't think they really know what they are doing. You can't tell bunch of people to mask and stop vaping with one another and give them shots without wearing a mask and rubber gloves... jeesh!

Not only that there is a chance that this strain of Meningitis B evades the vaccine. In some instances it says the current vaccine should work but there are conflicting studies as they don't know for sure. Some scientists question whether this strain will evade the vaccine. According to one expert. "Uptake of meningitis vaccines among adolescents is 73% and scientists are now trying to work out whether many of those who fell seriously ill were vaccinated. If so, it could suggest a new strain has started to evade immunity." So this is just premature guessing and hoping the vaccine will work...its gross the nurse exposing herself to an environment conducive to Meningitis B.. its just not worth the risk. Get your masks on healthcare!

LINK to photo of maskless nurse and a girl not wearing a really good fitting n95 mask:

Meningitis B vaccine scheme widened to include some year 11 pupils in Kent

Scheme expanded to four schools with known or suspected cases, as UKHSA figures show number has fallen to 23

the Guardian · theguardian.com

&
Meningitis 'new strain' fears (maybe the vaccine won't work)
LINK:

'New meningitis strain' fears after 'very unusual' outbreak kills two students

UK Health Security Agency is contacting 30,000 students, teachers and parents in the Kent area to get devastating meningitis outbreak under control

Daily Mirror · mirror.co.uk

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