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Author Topic: List your pet peeves in semantics and language that downplays the gravity of the covid situation in news & public media  (Read 2774 times)

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Yeah, I do not like when the media blames a virus death on underlying conditions. Why should anyone have to die at all? In the early days of the pandemic, the 1 big thing we did was try to protect those who are most at risk. Now not only do we not do that, but many who are high at risk are uninformed how bad these viruses can be and that Covid can still be bad. Then there is the fact Covid can weaken the immune system.

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Also I don't like how the media has implied or said that only people who ore older or "at risk' need to take more precautions such as masking. Common sense dictates if something is bad for old people it is bad for all people.



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I don't like how the media has implied or said that only people who ore older or "at risk' need to take more precautions such as masking. Common sense dictates if something is bad for old people it is bad for all people.

Point and case several states have reported the viruses this winter had hit ages 0-4 years old very hard.

Airplane deaths are "worth more" than Covid-19 deaths
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First, I want to start by expressing my deepest sympathies for all of those who lost family and/or friends in the aircraft collision on January 29, 2025, in the Washington DC area. For those who do not know, a small airliner and a military helicopter collided, killing all involved. My understanding of the death toll is 67 but I can't guarantee that the number mentioned is accurate.

However, my grievance is that these deaths seem to weigh more in the mass media than Covid-19 deaths.

A brief check of Florida's Covid-19 site currently lists 145 people who have died this year (and it is only January) of Covid-19. That's over twice the number of people than this aircraft collision and we are in year 5 of this pandemic. And that is just one state out of 50 in this country and we are just one country out of over 200 in the world.

I understand a lot of the counter-points: That people are experiencing Covid-19 burnout, that people have "normalized" Covid-19 deaths, that any airplane crash is tragic and is newsworthy... I understand all of those.

Yet we are in year 5 of a pandemic that has not gone away, largely due to the actions (or 'inactions' if you want to describe them) of our elected leadership and a majority of the public who has placed them in their leadership roles. We could be on the verge of a new pandemic (HPAI). Certainly, HPAI has already been a pandemic for birds and non-human mammals and if you don't believe me, go check out the prices for a carton of eggs.

It would be comforting if the same media that has wall-to-wall coverage of a plane crash that kills 67 people might lend that same amount of attention to a virus that is in its fifth year of killing us and to another virus that is causing mass casualties amongst our dairy cattle and chickens. Is that too much to ask?

Re: Airplane deaths are "worth more" than Covid-19 deaths
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First, I want to start by expressing my deepest sympathies for all of those who lost family and/or friends in the aircraft collision on January 29, 2025, in the Washington DC area. For those who do not know, a small airliner and a military helicopter collided, killing all involved. My understanding of the death toll is 67 but I can't guarantee that the number mentioned is accurate.

However, my grievance is that these deaths seem to weigh more in the mass media than Covid-19 deaths.

A brief check of Florida's Covid-19 site currently lists 145 people who have died this year (and it is only January) of Covid-19. That's over twice the number of people than this aircraft collision and we are in year 5 of this pandemic. And that is just one state out of 50 in this country and we are just one country out of over 200 in the world.

I understand a lot of the counter-points: That people are experiencing Covid-19 burnout, that people have "normalized" Covid-19 deaths, that any airplane crash is tragic and is newsworthy... I understand all of those.

Yet we are in year 5 of a pandemic that has not gone away, largely due to the actions (or 'inactions' if you want to describe them) of our elected leadership and a majority of the public who has placed them in their leadership roles. We could be on the verge of a new pandemic (HPAI). Certainly, HPAI has already been a pandemic for birds and non-human mammals and if you don't believe me, go check out the prices for a carton of eggs.

It would be comforting if the same media that has wall-to-wall coverage of a plane crash that kills 67 people might lend that same amount of attention to a virus that is in its fifth year of killing us and to another virus that is causing mass casualties amongst our dairy cattle and chickens. Is that too much to ask?

I totally agree that there is a huge insensitivity to airborne diseases and the toll it is taking, and its continuing to take on its victims with major long term repercussions. The sheer magnitude and numbers of people these airborne diseases are hurting including our animal and food sources is astronomical and people act like its not happening. I think the masses are in complete denial... like hear no evil see no evil... I think a lot of people just want things the way they used to be and quite frankly are pretending things will be okay when they are NOT okay! There weren't these diseases in my school when I was a kid.. there was no covid ..whooping cough was something my grandmother had as a child and was non existent in my school years.. there were definitely no bird flu or millions of chickens being culled every day in a new place.. monkey pox!, TB and influenza hotspots.. we got almost half dozen  airborne diseases hitting all seasons of the year circulating..how are hospitals going to keep up!? impossible ..this is truly crazy situation but what is crazier are the people in denial this stuff is happening. We at Data Report info  aren't in denial ..we see the  data, the reports and the reputable studies every single day!

I have the same beef so to speak even with hurricane relief in my area I can't help but think of the covid numbers and how they continue to grow yet I don't hear about people in the entertainment business or any other parties or factions or good will-like charity organizations raising money for covid related assistance.

In particular I would like to see more education and precautions such as masks of course being pushed to prevent more covid and airborne diseases such as bird flu so we don't get hospital overload. Once hospitals are overwhelmed then hospital care gets reduced like it was dark ages again.

When people in the public eye like superstars such as musicians and sports players get sick they have and opportunity to share in their recovery yet currantly they make no efforts to even disclose the particulars of their illness.. this morally reprehensible me. These people in the public eye miss the opportunity to grow from these events and teach others.

I'd like to seek healthcare and dentistry without fearing maskless people giving me a disease and I'd like to see more masked people in general so I feel more comfortable in going out in public to attend to business and to simply feel like I am part of a society that cares for itself and the challenges it currently faces insofar as illness goes. With some money wisely sunk into education and airborne disease awareness into the public I might actually feel more comfortable going out more as a Masked citizen.

Benjamin Franklin famously advised fire-threatened Philadelphians in 1736 that 'An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure,

The Masked Man
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I gotta a Peeve about insensitivity to number of death of animals to bird flu

… a health department or news channel can’t convince me that it’s not of public concern or the public is not endangered when a flock or herd of say 50- 20,000  creatures either die or are culled (killed) on a regular basis because of bird flu every couple days at any given place for quite some time now.

While these creatures aren’t human one might still say these are living beings there but for the grace of what go we? A creature is a living form and bird flu is proving itself successful so to speak with each being it enters gaining the edge with each infection making way for more likelihood of mutation not in human species favor

Replace the word culled “birds” with killed “life forms” and yeah we should be empathetic to say the very least we should be concerned after al we are “living forms” as well.

… the virus  is exponentially thriving making it more powerful as a virus. ..
…so once again bird flu is of great public concern already doing a number on all of us intertwined with us being equally part animal…

We should be uncomfortable with the death of so many creatures … there should be signs of discomfort coming from a rational persons perspective of the matter…

when I rode my bike in my safety mask briefly racing through a grocery store parking lot I didn’t notice a look of discomfort at all on the general public’s maskless faces even with their herd-like behavior …tsk tsk tsk the people flock together in the same animalistic behavior as the birds and cattle all standing in line in huddle… no different than most herdlike flock like animals we see. The same bathrooms the same drinking fountain standing in the same lines all standing in the footprints of one another like cattle..these are but creatures of habit definitely not concerned about bird flu or the flu for that matter in the local store.

My personal strategy and thought are as thus: I say Study the animals … observe them. see how they thrive or fall and you might stand a chance in this giant terrarium we call the environment .. don’t do what the animals do that die… be they they a lesson on to us who want to survive this bird flu should it escalate or continue to escalate at its current rate .. this is a flu that is a herd disease or a flock disease where animals crowd together their membranes soaking it all in… wanna live don’t act like cattle do the opposite of the animals .. don’t shed together. Wanna be different than a susceptible animal then  filter the air with a mask unless you want to breathe in the air of the gathering that  is in the local store.. wear a mask unless you want to be as free as a bird with bird flu. Wear a mask to truly separate yourself from the flock and their feather dander. You are the only animal that can choose to not breathe in what they are breathing by wearing a mask :) 

Bird flu is in our wildlife, in our zoos, right outside our window, and in our greatest food sources dairy and egg livestock… bird flu is of public concern now obviously.

True precautions and true preventative measures mean just that… ‘pre’ means before and to be truly safe one must be well rehearsed and already in the habit of taking actions before it is actually deemed necessary for it to serve as a true ‘pre’ventative.

If one wears a mask as a precautionary measure then that means one wears a mask before people are actually infected.

It’s also pretty weird they kill a gigantic herd or flock instead of just letting whichever creatures survive the bird flu … I’m not arguing for or against it but what f the ones that were meant to survive the flu have a special ability or something to survive bird flu and are supposed to live? In other words if they didn’t kill all the livestock or poultry and let some of them that  survived would those survivors have given birth to offspring that also had the genes or ability to survive bird flu as well? Don’t get me wrong I’m all about eradicating bird flu but these are questions worth thinking about when killing off entire herd of birds including some that may have what it takes to have survived the disease. While I’m not suggesting that we endanger people by letting an infested flock run free to infect everybody I am suggesting saving those specimens that recover from bird flu because this may lead to the understanding or the key to eradicating bird flu… we study what is special about the birds that survive bird flu and we see if their young have the propensity to also survive bird flu under some controlled environment… we quarantine some of the sick birds and let those live that do live of those quarantined sick birds. That’s what I propose rather than just killing all the sick birds because the sick birds that survive might be the birds that are supposed to live in order for us to study and find the cure.

This is just something to think about: If but a fraction of sick birds for example were quarintined (and safe from human species that would wear pep when handling them), would not 5 to 10 percent of this fraction of infected birds survive to give birth to other birds that might be survivors and might help shed light on the bird flu itself? 

Meanwhile a lot of people  aren’t scared enough to wear masks yet they have no problem  culling the whole herd or flock .. just something to think about. Why not live and let live at least a small fraction that would have lived? We breed animals for all sorts of reasons why not breed some survivors from the fraction of a sick ones in a safe quarantined controlled area?
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"The risk for human infection is low."

If I had a nickel for every time a news broadcast or an online article mentioned some variant of that phrase for HPAI (or for whatever new variant of Covid emerges), I may not become a millionaire but I'd need to rent some storage space in order to keep all of the nickels that I had collected.

If the risk is low, why not make it even lower? Why not try to realistically eliminate the risk at all? Why wait until the risk is high in order to enact additional protective measures?

The whole idea of locking the doors to your house at night is to lower the already low risk of a burglary. Every day, we take additional protective measures that lowers our risk for calamities that already low in nature. We wash our clothes, we vacuum, we dust... we perform outdoor chores even though the risk of consequence is low if we don't perform these activities.

So why not just lower the risk still while it is already low?
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The latest latest pet peeve of mine is when during a public health emergency a public health organization or health official says "no need for Panic" or "Don't Panic!"

Here's some key points I blatantly stole off the internet because they are so well said:

"Research suggests that simply telling people to "calm down" or "not to panic" can backfire by minimizing their fears without giving them tools to manage the situation, which can be seen as unprofessional or dismissive

Undermines Trust: If the public feels the message is masking a worse reality, it leads to mistrust of health authorities.

Ignores Valid Fear: If there is a real threat, telling people not to panic can seem callous or irresponsible, especially if it is used to avoid answering tough questions, as argued in some crisis scenarios.

Creates Confusion: If a "no panic" message contradicts the actual, visible severity of a situation, it can lead to a chaotic,, and uncooperative public

Best Practices for Health Ministers
Experts suggest that instead of telling people how to feel ("don't panic"), effective communication should:

    Acknowledge Fear: Validate that the situation is serious, which builds empathy.
    Provide Transparency: Be honest about what is known and unknown to avoid accusations of hiding the truth.
    Offer Actionable Steps: Give the public clear instructions on what to do to protect themselves.
    Show Competence: Focus on the steps being taken to manage the crisis, rather than just the emotional state of the public.

In essence, telling the public "not to panic" is generally considered poor communication if it is used to avoid accountability or to downplay a severe situation, but it can be part of a calming strategy if paired with concrete information and guidance".

...now when I hear some health minister or newscaster say "don't panic" I interpret that as meaning "don't do anything at all, Don't think about it ,Don't worry about others, Don't prepare or take heed of anything Don't bother to protect yourself, Don't respond, and just take whatever throws a punch at you  right in the face and don't complain if you get hurt or die... just don't panic or respond or show natural inborn fight or flight behavior. basically they just want us to be stupid and dumb to all care and concern... totally meek and to be good subjects and patrons. Don't read anything, don't question anything, and basically just be complacent, Don't rock the boat, Don't move, wiggle too much, you are under no obligations, and just be a good sitting duck.

...That's actually a tall order and much more work than just acting like responsible caring citizen if you ask me.. Ha! I couldn't possibly do all that aforementioned  stuff without my mask on!
It's a lot easier to just live with "the panic" and just wear a mask and take precautions and survive, ;)
The Masked Man


P.S. in reality all the pet peeves mentioned in this thread are actually  justifiable complaints.. we have the right to make these complaints and they are  harmful things that irk us for a reason. I should retitle this thread: "They Aren't Just Pet Peeves".
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Again  come across something that peeves me: downplaying germs and concerns about germs.

I take my loved one in for a pre surgery appointment. I discuss my genuine concern for my loved one catching an airborne illness or disease during her stay at hospital briefly after her Gall Bladder surgery.My loved one's cousin died from covid he got from a hospital stay and my loved one caught hepatitis A along with 32 other patients that took years to get over from a dentist.

The doctor just downplays it. Says American kids are always washing their hands all the time and are more sick than African kids are who never wash their hands and play in the mud in third world countries.

I don't believe that. Gazza is pretty muddy and there's a lot of illness going on.. there's a lot of disease in third world countries posted right here in Data Report Info.. There's malaria and dengue and all sorts of crap going down..."African kids healthier than American kids who are always washing their hands!?.. that can't be true.. WTF!? Evidently people who take gall bladders out know nothing about covid or airborne illnesses and airborne diseases or even zoonotic diseases.

Why Can't the doctors just can't say "We will make sure no nurses or staff from the hospital enter her room without masks on" ?.. Why can't they just reassure me of that?

Also exploring wether the hospital treated at risk  elderly people differently than regular patients,
I also told the doctor that simply operating on a person puts them in a temporary state of Immunocompromisation  and the doctor said he hadn't read any studies on that.

They just tell me "its unlikely" she'll get an illness.

Sorry but it just seems like the doctors I meet often don't want me to worry or ask good questions .. like don't rock the boat!

I'm skeptical.. I don't think doctors and nurses are going to admit people get sick under their care at places where sick people gather seeking treatment.

I mean They are going to go to all this trouble with providing a sterile place for the surgery and they can't assure me staff or nurses from a busy hospital won't give her the flu or something. It's just wrong to not take pride in your work. If your going to take the gall bladder out of somebody at least have the gall to be the boss and assure the caretaker and loved one she won't get sick from covid or influenza B.. Its horrible but they don't assure me of that.

How can I trust them with my loved one's life if they can't even give me their word no maskless nurses or staff are going to handle her!?

The doctor was pretty much like those are just the chances you take.

She's 77 and I love her. I feel so small that I can't protect her. The hospital and the nurses and the doctors all put on masks for me when I request them to but on the day of surgery they are taking her away and I can't be there to babysit the doctors and nurses and staff  and makes sure they wear masks after they have exposed themselves to sickness. We haven't been sick in six years. We mask. I protected me and her successfully  from covid and all airborne illnesses for six years straight.  I can't even tell you how I feel about a maskless healthcare system.I'm in tears and rage.

Sure would be smart to use video surveillance of their work behind these closed doors.. I don't understand this. I can make them mask in front of me but they are going to take her away and I won't be able to protect her
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P.S.Its what Steve mentioned ..that's what the doctors told me today they say "The risk for human infection is low." That's exactly what the doctor said when I showed concern for her getting an illness during surgery from the maskless staff in the hospital. They couldn't give me a straight answer.  I'm like don't risk anything and make sure everyone masks for me doc! Here's the weird part I can get doctors and nurses to mask for us when they are in my presence but I can't get the doctors and nurses to make people in the hospital mask or at least I can't get them to assure me of it.

I'm gonna wear a mask for a couple weeks around her while I take care of her in my own home after I bring her home from surgery. One of us has to take absolutely no risk from getting sick. How do I care for her if I get sick? I'm sorry but a lot of these doctor's are sh*t.. I apologize but if they can't give me their word that people can remain masked around a 77 year old woman in surgery then that's what they are to me. They can cut a woman open and remove her gall bladder but they can't tell their colleagues and staff to remain masked around my loved one. They say the "The risk for human infection is low." but think how much lower it could be! I'm staying strong. I'm going to wear a mask when I take care of her just incase the dice that rolled isn't in my favor. I think its wrong..I'm rightfully angry. No matter what I am not going to risk getting sick. I have to be strong and stay strong for her. I guess I just have higher standards than most.

Wear a Mask,
The Masked Man

P.S. I know there are good and bad doctors and in-between ones. I gotta blow off some more steam.. some doctors(not all)are totally insensitive to covid! I mean it! Unless I got covid in 2019 and didn't know it, I don't think I got covid and it is terrifying even not having gotten it! .. covid is dead serious! To say covid is over is such an an injustice. Some doctors are saying and doing that pretending something is over when scientifically it is not over. Covid and its mutations still exists and could even rebound worse and not only that to me its all about long covid and what covid does to people 5-10 years after they caught it. Some of these doctors are so presumptuous. It ain't over til its over man!
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