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Author Topic: List your pet peeves in semantics and language that downplays the gravity of the covid situation in news & public media  (Read 2600 times)

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Yeah, I do not like when the media blames a virus death on underlying conditions. Why should anyone have to die at all? In the early days of the pandemic, the 1 big thing we did was try to protect those who are most at risk. Now not only do we not do that, but many who are high at risk are uninformed how bad these viruses can be and that Covid can still be bad. Then there is the fact Covid can weaken the immune system.

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Also I don't like how the media has implied or said that only people who ore older or "at risk' need to take more precautions such as masking. Common sense dictates if something is bad for old people it is bad for all people.



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I don't like how the media has implied or said that only people who ore older or "at risk' need to take more precautions such as masking. Common sense dictates if something is bad for old people it is bad for all people.

Point and case several states have reported the viruses this winter had hit ages 0-4 years old very hard.

Airplane deaths are "worth more" than Covid-19 deaths
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First, I want to start by expressing my deepest sympathies for all of those who lost family and/or friends in the aircraft collision on January 29, 2025, in the Washington DC area. For those who do not know, a small airliner and a military helicopter collided, killing all involved. My understanding of the death toll is 67 but I can't guarantee that the number mentioned is accurate.

However, my grievance is that these deaths seem to weigh more in the mass media than Covid-19 deaths.

A brief check of Florida's Covid-19 site currently lists 145 people who have died this year (and it is only January) of Covid-19. That's over twice the number of people than this aircraft collision and we are in year 5 of this pandemic. And that is just one state out of 50 in this country and we are just one country out of over 200 in the world.

I understand a lot of the counter-points: That people are experiencing Covid-19 burnout, that people have "normalized" Covid-19 deaths, that any airplane crash is tragic and is newsworthy... I understand all of those.

Yet we are in year 5 of a pandemic that has not gone away, largely due to the actions (or 'inactions' if you want to describe them) of our elected leadership and a majority of the public who has placed them in their leadership roles. We could be on the verge of a new pandemic (HPAI). Certainly, HPAI has already been a pandemic for birds and non-human mammals and if you don't believe me, go check out the prices for a carton of eggs.

It would be comforting if the same media that has wall-to-wall coverage of a plane crash that kills 67 people might lend that same amount of attention to a virus that is in its fifth year of killing us and to another virus that is causing mass casualties amongst our dairy cattle and chickens. Is that too much to ask?

Re: Airplane deaths are "worth more" than Covid-19 deaths
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First, I want to start by expressing my deepest sympathies for all of those who lost family and/or friends in the aircraft collision on January 29, 2025, in the Washington DC area. For those who do not know, a small airliner and a military helicopter collided, killing all involved. My understanding of the death toll is 67 but I can't guarantee that the number mentioned is accurate.

However, my grievance is that these deaths seem to weigh more in the mass media than Covid-19 deaths.

A brief check of Florida's Covid-19 site currently lists 145 people who have died this year (and it is only January) of Covid-19. That's over twice the number of people than this aircraft collision and we are in year 5 of this pandemic. And that is just one state out of 50 in this country and we are just one country out of over 200 in the world.

I understand a lot of the counter-points: That people are experiencing Covid-19 burnout, that people have "normalized" Covid-19 deaths, that any airplane crash is tragic and is newsworthy... I understand all of those.

Yet we are in year 5 of a pandemic that has not gone away, largely due to the actions (or 'inactions' if you want to describe them) of our elected leadership and a majority of the public who has placed them in their leadership roles. We could be on the verge of a new pandemic (HPAI). Certainly, HPAI has already been a pandemic for birds and non-human mammals and if you don't believe me, go check out the prices for a carton of eggs.

It would be comforting if the same media that has wall-to-wall coverage of a plane crash that kills 67 people might lend that same amount of attention to a virus that is in its fifth year of killing us and to another virus that is causing mass casualties amongst our dairy cattle and chickens. Is that too much to ask?

I totally agree that there is a huge insensitivity to airborne diseases and the toll it is taking, and its continuing to take on its victims with major long term repercussions. The sheer magnitude and numbers of people these airborne diseases are hurting including our animal and food sources is astronomical and people act like its not happening. I think the masses are in complete denial... like hear no evil see no evil... I think a lot of people just want things the way they used to be and quite frankly are pretending things will be okay when they are NOT okay! There weren't these diseases in my school when I was a kid.. there was no covid ..whooping cough was something my grandmother had as a child and was non existent in my school years.. there were definitely no bird flu or millions of chickens being culled every day in a new place.. monkey pox!, TB and influenza hotspots.. we got almost half dozen  airborne diseases hitting all seasons of the year circulating..how are hospitals going to keep up!? impossible ..this is truly crazy situation but what is crazier are the people in denial this stuff is happening. We at Data Report info  aren't in denial ..we see the  data, the reports and the reputable studies every single day!

I have the same beef so to speak even with hurricane relief in my area I can't help but think of the covid numbers and how they continue to grow yet I don't hear about people in the entertainment business or any other parties or factions or good will-like charity organizations raising money for covid related assistance.

In particular I would like to see more education and precautions such as masks of course being pushed to prevent more covid and airborne diseases such as bird flu so we don't get hospital overload. Once hospitals are overwhelmed then hospital care gets reduced like it was dark ages again.

When people in the public eye like superstars such as musicians and sports players get sick they have and opportunity to share in their recovery yet currantly they make no efforts to even disclose the particulars of their illness.. this morally reprehensible me. These people in the public eye miss the opportunity to grow from these events and teach others.

I'd like to seek healthcare and dentistry without fearing maskless people giving me a disease and I'd like to see more masked people in general so I feel more comfortable in going out in public to attend to business and to simply feel like I am part of a society that cares for itself and the challenges it currently faces insofar as illness goes. With some money wisely sunk into education and airborne disease awareness into the public I might actually feel more comfortable going out more as a Masked citizen.

Benjamin Franklin famously advised fire-threatened Philadelphians in 1736 that 'An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure,

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I gotta a Peeve about insensitivity to number of death of animals to bird flu

… a health department or news channel can’t convince me that it’s not of public concern or the public is not endangered when a flock or herd of say 50- 20,000  creatures either die or are culled (killed) on a regular basis because of bird flu every couple days at any given place for quite some time now.

While these creatures aren’t human one might still say these are living beings there but for the grace of what go we? A creature is a living form and bird flu is proving itself successful so to speak with each being it enters gaining the edge with each infection making way for more likelihood of mutation not in human species favor

Replace the word culled “birds” with killed “life forms” and yeah we should be empathetic to say the very least we should be concerned after al we are “living forms” as well.

… the virus  is exponentially thriving making it more powerful as a virus. ..
…so once again bird flu is of great public concern already doing a number on all of us intertwined with us being equally part animal…

We should be uncomfortable with the death of so many creatures … there should be signs of discomfort coming from a rational persons perspective of the matter…

when I rode my bike in my safety mask briefly racing through a grocery store parking lot I didn’t notice a look of discomfort at all on the general public’s maskless faces even with their herd-like behavior …tsk tsk tsk the people flock together in the same animalistic behavior as the birds and cattle all standing in line in huddle… no different than most herdlike flock like animals we see. The same bathrooms the same drinking fountain standing in the same lines all standing in the footprints of one another like cattle..these are but creatures of habit definitely not concerned about bird flu or the flu for that matter in the local store.

My personal strategy and thought are as thus: I say Study the animals … observe them. see how they thrive or fall and you might stand a chance in this giant terrarium we call the environment .. don’t do what the animals do that die… be they they a lesson on to us who want to survive this bird flu should it escalate or continue to escalate at its current rate .. this is a flu that is a herd disease or a flock disease where animals crowd together their membranes soaking it all in… wanna live don’t act like cattle do the opposite of the animals .. don’t shed together. Wanna be different than a susceptible animal then  filter the air with a mask unless you want to breathe in the air of the gathering that  is in the local store.. wear a mask unless you want to be as free as a bird with bird flu. Wear a mask to truly separate yourself from the flock and their feather dander. You are the only animal that can choose to not breathe in what they are breathing by wearing a mask :) 

Bird flu is in our wildlife, in our zoos, right outside our window, and in our greatest food sources dairy and egg livestock… bird flu is of public concern now obviously.

True precautions and true preventative measures mean just that… ‘pre’ means before and to be truly safe one must be well rehearsed and already in the habit of taking actions before it is actually deemed necessary for it to serve as a true ‘pre’ventative.

If one wears a mask as a precautionary measure then that means one wears a mask before people are actually infected.

It’s also pretty weird they kill a gigantic herd or flock instead of just letting whichever creatures survive the bird flu … I’m not arguing for or against it but what f the ones that were meant to survive the flu have a special ability or something to survive bird flu and are supposed to live? In other words if they didn’t kill all the livestock or poultry and let some of them that  survived would those survivors have given birth to offspring that also had the genes or ability to survive bird flu as well? Don’t get me wrong I’m all about eradicating bird flu but these are questions worth thinking about when killing off entire herd of birds including some that may have what it takes to have survived the disease. While I’m not suggesting that we endanger people by letting an infested flock run free to infect everybody I am suggesting saving those specimens that recover from bird flu because this may lead to the understanding or the key to eradicating bird flu… we study what is special about the birds that survive bird flu and we see if their young have the propensity to also survive bird flu under some controlled environment… we quarantine some of the sick birds and let those live that do live of those quarantined sick birds. That’s what I propose rather than just killing all the sick birds because the sick birds that survive might be the birds that are supposed to live in order for us to study and find the cure.

This is just something to think about: If but a fraction of sick birds for example were quarintined (and safe from human species that would wear pep when handling them), would not 5 to 10 percent of this fraction of infected birds survive to give birth to other birds that might be survivors and might help shed light on the bird flu itself? 

Meanwhile a lot of people  aren’t scared enough to wear masks yet they have no problem  culling the whole herd or flock .. just something to think about. Why not live and let live at least a small fraction that would have lived? We breed animals for all sorts of reasons why not breed some survivors from the fraction of a sick ones in a safe quarantined controlled area?
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"The risk for human infection is low."

If I had a nickel for every time a news broadcast or an online article mentioned some variant of that phrase for HPAI (or for whatever new variant of Covid emerges), I may not become a millionaire but I'd need to rent some storage space in order to keep all of the nickels that I had collected.

If the risk is low, why not make it even lower? Why not try to realistically eliminate the risk at all? Why wait until the risk is high in order to enact additional protective measures?

The whole idea of locking the doors to your house at night is to lower the already low risk of a burglary. Every day, we take additional protective measures that lowers our risk for calamities that already low in nature. We wash our clothes, we vacuum, we dust... we perform outdoor chores even though the risk of consequence is low if we don't perform these activities.

So why not just lower the risk still while it is already low?
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