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Many years ago I briefly used a tens unit for back pain.. mine had like battery pack with a little wire that led to a patch or two. You stick the patch on the problem area and then you turn the patch on to different levels and it sort of vibrates and pulses and makes the muscle under the patch twitch and tingle and this can give a sense of relief and this might help relax the muscle kind of through electric jolts which is like deep massage in a sense.

...Anyway that was what I remember experiencing. Like I said that was many years ago and maybe the tens unit has changed a little but regardless it sounds like this tool can help ease some suffering! That is Wonderful news...

..also what's super nice about it is the tens unit is a non-invasive measure to use in the sense it's not drugs or internal medicine but rather an electrical tool one can turn off and on and just use it for a certain amount of time.

(For example, if one used a tens unit while doing dishes or after a little physical therapy or exercise that would be a a lot better than tearing your insides up from popping too much Tylenol  or getting hooked on pain pills or something that the body tends to build a tolerance to anyway.. Although I am not a medical expert and can't give qualified medical advice, I would venture to guess one is much better off messing with a tens unit!)

I tell ya one thing that probably gets neglected and not talked about as much as public schools get monitored 'hellwise' ahem I mean healthwise are churches. Churches probably aren't monitored enough in so far as covid and diseases go..

..While I have no idea how many people got sick at the church we used to attend I do know the minister's mother died of covid and I believe the minister has been sick with covid twice. That's all I really know. Churches are a magnet for our older generation and there should be safety protocols in place to save these churches and the people who attended them. Perhaps churches that want to survive need to take a strong stance on Masks and strong online activities. 

Here's our Local church update (the church we personally quit when the pandemic began around 2020): before 2020 there were 120 members of the church now after a succession of almost five years it being near late 2024 there is something like 30 members and 3 people left in the choir... a trio hopefully that wears masks.

I dare say there should be an 11th commandment entitled don't make one another sicketh..wear a masketh and abideth by certain hygienic and space practices amongst ye seating areas for worship... Do not shaketh hands or hugeth one another in warm embrace in doorway upon entering and do not holdeth hands in circle to pray and don't touch your face under your mask without vigorous hand washing in private!

I may be a simpleton but according to the Ten Commandments you're not supposed to hurt anybody or even yourself and making one another sick is hurtful to everybody and risking getting sick is somewhat suicidal if you think about it. Making one another sick is simply a sin. one could carry this even further and easily argue the case that we that wear masks might not just wear masks for health reasons but we also might wear safety masks for ethical, moral, and even religious reasons... I can speak for myself and maybe other maskers out there that we as maskers love God given life and we respect life here on earth. I as a masker obviously don't wanna get hurt and we don't wanna hurt anybody because of of the dangerous microscopic entities at play proven by the God given people who utilize electron microscopes. Anyway for what its worth, that's my little religious and scientific view.

Why heck if you intentionally harm someone or make someone sick on purpose then that's a little like trying to murder somebody or at least hurt them. Disease and illness after all takes only second place to Death! Of course there's the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in the Old Testament's Book of Ezekiel they are sword, famine, wild beasts and pestilence or plague! Don't be a flying horseman of death or a wolf in sheep's clothing only to bring bring a pestilence and plague to your churches ye proud but hasty maskless! Anyway making another sick and getting sick is surely a sin because it's simply hurtful! You decide for yourselves but that's what I think.

So far after five years of a pandemic and five years of observing society, observing the illness of people in politics as well as other walks of life, school statistics.. data from this forum, studies from abroad and scholarly medical papers being brought forward about covid and other emerging diseases such as bird flu, it is appearing that I am right that people at large are suffering and being unduly hurt by covid and other emerging diseases.

Regardless of my zany unorthodox untraditional religious views  there appear to be microscopic entities proved by electron microscopes to exist which are wreaking havoc on society and so called normal way of living since around 2020.You couldn't pay me to go to church much less board a cruiseship nor ride an enclosed elevator with any poor souls out there. For everyday studies seem to emerge proving covid and other diseases are proving a great threat to our species's lifestyles and very lives as time goes by.   

I am not a participant of church since 2020 but I can only suspect that over the last several years members of our local church were either getting sick or they fled for self preservation and good reason. This lack of church attendance is no doubt due to covid pandemic and probably lack of safety measures in place such as masks and spacing out of seats and there's probably no rules or code of conduct that reflect the current health crisis .. its a shame because these church people are good people with above average discipline often able to abide by certain self imposed rules and customs. Church people contribute a lot to society and so society loses a lot when they lose their local churches due to pandemic no doubt.

I am sure this is a widespread problem for many churches due to the way the churches are traditionally set up such as their close encounters with one another.  The typical church age group is at risk however this is not limited to age as I don't buy the sometimes held belief  that covid and other diseases are only a problem for the elderly... I believe all age groups are prone to, suffer from and spread diseases alike such as covid.

Anyway this may appear as a huge loss.. the loss of an incredible beautiful church and the companionship, the relationships and love and humanity that came from that church.. it breaks our heart because that church gave so much to its community and helped so many people that it hurts to see no one could help it as it has dwindled…

… on the other hand if the church didn’t  dwindle in number more people might get sick. Perhaps we should  be grateful church attendance has dwindled so fewer people risk getting sick! Regardless  I’d say ideally it would be best to have very small safe church with lots of safety protocols in place with a small attendance rather than an unsafe church too big for its britches. Quality is always to be preferred over quantity. Perhaps churches with small attendance and safety protocols drive away the masses which is a good thing.  I am inclined to think that churches everywhere should be in a state of reform so they are more likely to survive in the long haul. This goes for the pope as well! What good is a pope that keeps  drawing crowds, keeps kissing hands and keeps getting sick and keeps catching covid? Change thy ways churchgoers and change the ways of the church! Look what happened to our church the ministers mom died of covid and the minister has had covid at least twice and now the church is almost gone. Don't get the Masked Man started  but seniors defend ourselves! I'm 53 years old and I speed through the parking lots today masked on my bicycle and I see all these super old people all hobbling limping  into grocery store slow as molasses with no masks on.. they already look sick... its disgusting .. defend yourselves seniors with a mask!

Correct me if I am wrong, but ever since I was a little kid I have always loved older people and thought to myself when I was really little (perhaps daydreaming in school) "You know if an older person didn't catch pneumonia, the flu or even the common cold they might actually live longer and pass away happier as well". Ive always just sort of known this. Correct me if this is a fallacy of thinking or if this is but a figment of my imagination that many older people stand a chance at living longer healthier happy lives without catching airborne diseases...

...therefore safety masks seem like a pretty cool thing to this old boy. My grandma lived to be 103 years old so I’m gonna try to break her record! 

....would love to hear what others have observed since I am somewhat isolated from the general public and have relatively few dealings with people out in the public at all since 2020.

There but for the grace of the mask go I,
Saint Masked Man



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Summary:
Doctors have figured out that patients have been infected with COVID for so long they basically have their own strain because it's mutated over time.

LINK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DirW5-EshVg

ADDITIONAL LINK with slightly more details:
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/researcher-says-someone-anne-arundel-county-unknowingly-been-infected-covid-for-3-years/65-ab55bd53-6e6c-4474-8b09-497ef30fe620


The Masked Man's side-note for what its worth:
I don't know if this a hypothesis or if DNA is somehow taken from wastewater to substantiate their theory but this phenomena obviously needs more research... Is this like Typhoid Mary in that people are running around with persistent covid continually infecting others? Regardless this needs to be further investigated preferably by masked researchers since we are talking new strain... I suppose by new "strain" they mean new variant.

P.S. Readers please feel free to add additional links to this that contain more details or more scholarly papers with substance in regards to this news.

I tried to determine more details about this study here:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X24011794



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...such as precisely what type, dose, and boosters of COVID-19 vaccines in each individual...

I'm also trying to pinpoint as to which variants were actually occuring in these four Japanese municipalities between August 2020 and December 2022.

I must protest and politely question the title of just this particular study. I think we are being misled by a news reporter from University of Minnesota namely  Stephanie Soucheray, MA to take a Japanese study from August 2020 to December 2022 and claim that the recent covid 19 vaccination is tied to lower risk considering her article is written on November 6, 2024 when she cites the Japanese study which is way back in August 2020 and December 2022 no doubt using an older vaccine which isn't even clearly cited.. all this depends on what Stephanie Soucheray means by the word "recent" .. I think it fair to say most typical readers would assume that recent vaccinations means a vaccination of at least this time period and year of 2024. Readers are likely to misinterpret the title and are going to think the latest vaccination available today protects them from long covid.

Of course what the study is trying to say is that a recently given fresh shot like 14 to 149 days before you get infected appeared to might work at preventing long covid way back in August 2020 through December 2022. I guess I'm just having trouble with the title of this study.

A personal side note concern: I am concerned about certain limitations such as variant type. I  am not sure all variants are equal insofar as if one variant might be worse for causing long covid than other variants... so Is the study addressing just one of the variants? I'd love to see a study that showed if long covid was more prevalent from one particular variant than from another.. for example does the Variant XEC cause more long covid than a different variant? Anyway I fear this particular study only limits itself to the study of one or two variants over two years ago.

While I don't want to dismiss this study completely, I do think author of this study and the researchers need to state and disclose  very clearly which variant and which vaccine their study addresses in that time frame.

I'd like to hear what others think about my critique of this particular study and my sidenote concerns.

Time for me to act like Andy Rooney on 60 minutes ..

..I feel a big pet peeve coming on all the time on some public news media especially the local 6 o'clock type news here in the USA, as patriotic as I am ...

...My pet peeve is in regards to the statement"It isn't of public concern" or "its not anything the public should be concerned about yet" ...

.. oh those statement make me angry and shouldn't be uttered to begin with!... I decide whether to be a concerned citizen or not... Not the  news anchor!
It's up to each of us if we are concerned about a child getting the bird flu and if farmers are  catching bird flu. I decide (not a reporter) whether to be concerned and if another covid outbreak in an assisted living center affects me. Of course these findings affect me! Of course I feel something when a whole lot of my species starts suffering or even dying off!

Imagine being 53 years old and this is the very first time ever in your entire life that a disease like covid comes along and stays around four seasons out the year for maybe five years straight now with no signs of stopping and then this is the very first time that many diseased chickens and turkeys get killed and farmers come down with a disease from other animals and animals are sick with covid just like people and some young 6 o'clock newscaster reports this and smiles and says "no worries" or utters "that's nothing to be concerned about"...lol.. believe me I am concerned about it! I am concerned enough to to alter my lifestyle to take precautions such as mask to avoid the long term repercussions of getting sick from relatively new mysterious mutating diseases ..lol I'm 53 years old and diseases like covid and bird flu and the host of other older diseases weren't as prevalent like whopping cough etc till the last few years. Yeah I am part of the public and it is concerning..

...I can't stand that: a news anchor telling me what to "feel' or if I should not be concerned over horrendously bad news... a news anchor or most anyone is supposed to state the facts or the events and not make such remarks such as: "its not a concern for the public" when obviously we decide our feelings as to whether to be concerned about an issue or not.

..anyway that's the latest pet peeve Ive got I enjoyed ranting on that...

Anyone here in the forum please feel free to rant here and to add to my pet peeve list in your replies

There but for the grace of the mask go I,
The Masked Man





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Another sample/example of relation technique involving internet... the internet can provide a real social stimulus for us who have chosen to isolate and those of us who are pandemic savvy/wary.
In this case my immunocompromised loved one and I exercise in the privacy, safety, and convenience of our own home to You Tube's dance workout program called 375 Dance Studio..as you can see we don't have to go anywhere to have a good time and the Internet is full of interesting and talented people who give us their teachings, personalities and spirit through the internet for us to enjoy.
Diana and I try to dance workout to you tube's 375 dance studio  at least 15 to 30 minutes once a day as seen here in our little video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1DIYxNyoLnj58FoHt9WS0_iJmNvR9kuaJ/view





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I couldn't help but notice in Steves topic "US-HPAI detected in state of Hawaii" that the property with the infected flock is served by the same wastewater treatment plant that is also detecting the virus..

...this prompts me to wonder about a certain practice which I must mention that is done by many wastewater treatment plants and should be explored...

..."Mar 30, 2023 — About half the sewage sludge in the U.S. is made into fertilizer, according to the National Biosolids Data Project"

A wastewater plant will give away processed poop called "sludge" to farmers to use as fertilizer.

Whenever the property with the infected flock is served by the same wastewater treatment plant, I would think a good policy for wastewater plants should be to indicate whether their treatment plant had ever given "sludge" to that particular farm that now has Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI).

I have questions: Is it conceivable that wastewater treatment plants could have given that farm some sludge as fertilizer inadvertently infecting the farm with tainted sludge/fertilizer? Is it safe to feed a chicken food that has been fertilized by  sewage and could the chickens get sick? If a wastewater plant detects viruses such as HPAI avian flu, in their wastewater,  does that wastewater treatment plant still provide "sludge"/fertilizer to farmers? 

It does appear that bird flu spreads through water
"Open bodies of water, including drinking water reservoirs, can become contaminated by birds that are actively shedding virus or by waterfowl carcasses. Surface runoff also represents a potential source of contamination for groundwater".

All this gives rise to the question can wastewater treatment plants be infecting farms with tainted sludge/fertilizer? To me, this is a question worth exploring as we see more and more farms fall prey to the Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza (HPAI).

Very little is online about Wastewater Sludge protocols and what wastewater sites are obliged to do or what they do do prior to selling sludge to farmers from what I have noticed...

That being said I did find some info on avian flu and  manure (back in 2015) and what is proposed as to what farmers are supposed to do with manure to prevent bird flu over at "Avian Influenza: Manure Application and Crop Production BMPs Posted on April 29, 2015 (April 21, 2016) by Christine Brown in Soil Health here:
https://fieldcropnews.com/2015/04/avian-influenza-manure-application-and-crop-production-bmps/
-13%"In manure, the avian influenza virus can survive for 30 to 35 days at temperatures of  4oC and up to 7 days at  20oC.  The virus can remain viable for longer periods in liquid manure.  During winter months the virus remained viable for over 100 days in research studies.

Heat, dryness and extremely high or low pH can destroy the virus’ ability to infect.  In barns a method used to inactivate the virus included heating the barn to 38oC (100oF) for a week.  Viability of the virus “deposited” by infected migratory birds in fields will be reduced as winter conditions transition to spring.  Just another reason to look forward to the spring/summer warmth and sunshine.

Use of disinfectants such as Virkon, Accel, VIROCID®, Bisentry, Biosolve Plus, Biofoam, etc are another method used to eliminate or prevent the spread of the virus. Ensure adequate contact time and concentrations by reading the label and ensuring proper use".

Also more food for thought is the World Health Organization's view on it way back in 2007 which may or may not be applicable to us as to in the here and now of 2024. Link:
"Review of latest available evidence on potential transmission of avian influenza (H5N1) through water and sewage and ways to reduce the risks to human health"
Last updated 10/10/2007: https://iris.who.int/bitstream/handle/10665/204275/WHO_SDE_WSH_06.1_eng.pdf?sequence=1

...Just One of the many statements made by the W.H.O in the aforementioned study/link...
"No specific information is available on factors affecting the persistence of H5N1 virus in sewage or on the effect of waste treatment processes on H5N1 concentrations. Virus concentrations are reduced at different rates and to various extents in both human and animal waste treatment processes, depending on conditions, but they are not completely eliminated".

Please feel free to reply with any studies or comments you feel relevant to this topic.







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